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Hidden power, secrets, cover-ups, corruption.

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You think you know the whole story?

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Think again.

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I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter.

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I've heard things that'll blow your mind,

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and now I think it's time you get the whole story.

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Now, the government conspiracy to track your every move.

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They keep files on us.

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And make sure you don't step out of line.

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Big Brother is in the corner office where you work.

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Big Brother is your boss.

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It begins where technology and terrorism collide

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and reaches right into your life.

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I take a special design rifle.

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I'd shoot a plug that sticks on the back of your car.

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I can now listen to conversations inside your car.

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They're watching from above, from below, inside your wallet,

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and under your skin.

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The end point is going to be in my coat-trip and planted in your body.

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And you won't believe who's doing the spying.

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We're going to have kids ratting their parents,

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neighbors ratting against their neighbors,

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and the government is setting all this up.

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If that isn't scary, what is?

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They're closer than you think.

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Big Brother is everywhere.

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Big Brother is big business.

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Is Big Brother watching you?

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I'm Jesse Ventura, a Mrs. Conspiracy Theory.

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Jesse Ventura is in Oklahoma City.

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He's here to expose a group of your neighbors,

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who moonlight as government spies.

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He's tracked them down.

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He's found out where they work,

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and he's not letting them off the hook.

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Because this time, it's personal.

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This is an outrage.

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I am outraged.

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Is this Nazi Germany we're talking about?

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I fought for my country as a Navy SEAL.

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I've served in public office.

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I don't like the idea of my government spying on its citizens.

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And when I found out they were spying on me, the governor,

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I vowed to find out who's behind it.

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The investigation begins in Los Angeles.

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Jesse meets with Catherine Albrecht,

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an expert on privacy and surveillance.

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Catherine, you know, I'm concerned,

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because it just seems to me like Big Brother,

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where the government seems to be wanting to watch us more and more.

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Well, the argument always made for these technologies is they'll make us safer.

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That's always the argument.

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We've got surveillance cameras going up everywhere.

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Yeah, I noticed in the city of Minneapolis now,

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they've got a camera on every street corner,

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supposedly to help with traffic and all that stuff.

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Well, you've got some of the safest communities in the United States

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right now installing cameras, and you say,

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well, why would they need this? Why are they doing that?

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And the answer is that the federal government is going into communities

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around the country at the local level

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in installing this surveillance infrastructure.

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And people don't understand how all of this ultimately is going to tie together.

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And I believe that if we're not careful,

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we're going to lose all of our constitutionally protected rights.

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And now I've heard rumor there's something they want to do to people in the border state.

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What's that all about?

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Yeah, this is part of a new program where to cross the border into Canada or Mexico,

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they want people to get these RFID tags in their driver's licenses.

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It's a tiny microchip hooked up to a little antenna

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pressed between the layers of the plastic.

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For what purpose?

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The idea is it's an alternative to a passport.

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So you're driving up in your car, you've got the customs station, you know,

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20, 30 feet away, they can actually read your driver's license from that distance.

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So the guy sitting in the booth pulls up your picture

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and then is able to identify you when you come through.

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What they say it's for is so you can get through the border more quickly.

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What makes this creepy is that the type of RFID technology

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that they've put into these licenses can be picked up by anybody.

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I can spend a couple hundred bucks and buy a reader to pick this up.

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I could be standing here right now reading the number off of your ID card

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right through your pocket, right through your wallet.

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The wrong people could literally steal anything you got in your wallet.

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If you want to understand how this can be abused,

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IBM has a patent for something they call the person tracking unit.

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They've actually got a plan to put the readers in bathrooms, in elevators,

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sports arena, shopping malls, everywhere people go.

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IBM's plan is they would use it to track you,

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literally track you for marketing purposes

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and hand over the information of law enforcement.

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So this really is George Orwell's 1984.

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It's worse. It's worse.

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In this world, if we don't stop it,

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the end point is going to be an RFID microchip implanted in your body.

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Jesse heads back to fill in his team.

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It's time to launch the hunt for the people robbing your freedom.

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I don't like the idea that people and entities are watching me

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and recording what I do for whatever reason.

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It's called freedom.

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Fine, but how do we know who Big Brother is?

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Well, Alex, don't look at Big Brothers like a person.

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Look at it like an idea.

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You know, and if you stop and look at what's happened after 9-11 especially,

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now we've been saddled with the Patriot Act,

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which in essence gives the government the freedom

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to do things they could never get away with before.

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I mean, before, if they wanted to enter your house,

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they had to go to a judge, show probable cause, and get a search warrant.

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Well, the Patriot Act throws that right out the window now.

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So you're saying you think they jumped on 9-11 as an excuse to spy on the public?

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It sure was convenient.

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Are we forgetting the fact that the world is full of people

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who would like nothing better than to kill us?

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I mean, don't you want to kind of know what those people are doing?

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I do.

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But are they spying on the right people?

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Look, if you're on the phone call and you're calling the liquor store,

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they don't really care what you're doing.

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You don't know what they care about, Michael.

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What if I'm on the phone making a little joke and I use a keyword that pops up in their computer

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and next thing you know, I'm on the no-fly list?

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It is not paranoia.

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No, check you out and see that there's nothing to argue about it.

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Let me tell you guys something out of a practical note.

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I'm going to tell you a little bit of a story.

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About a month after I was elected governor,

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I was requested into the basement of the Capitol

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to be interviewed by 23 members of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA.

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They were very formal.

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It was governor, sir, and all that.

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But they put me in a chair and they were in a big half moon around me.

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I want to know what you're doing here.

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Because in the CIA mission statement, it says that they're not to be operational

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inside the United States of America.

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Well, they wouldn't really give me an answer on that.

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And then I said, I want to go around the room and I want each one of you to tell me your name and what you do.

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Half of them wouldn't.

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Now, isn't that bizarre?

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I'm the governor and these guys won't even answer questions from me.

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Then they started questioning me and it was all about how I got elected.

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There was every array of person you could imagine, young people, old people, all nationalities.

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These were people that you would see every day.

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They looked like your neighbors.

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I think we got to start talking to people that are in this business.

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We got to start talking to people so we can find out how deep they're going in.

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I want to know who's being spied on and who's doing the spy.

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The conspiracy probe gets underway.

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Who is Big Brother watching and how?

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Coming up, the government uses weapons of war to spy on you and me.

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Within six hours, I have two secret service agents at my house.

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They had a transcript of every word that was said on the telephone.

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Then, Jesse Ventura becomes a human target of Big Brother technology.

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That is Big Brother at its finest.

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And later, showdown on Main Street USA.

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Jesse confronts the people spying on you.

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I'm a big believer in this, governor. I carry it with me.

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I'll say this to you just as long as you don't step on that bill of rights while you're doing all this.

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But first in his own words, here's an inside look at Jesse Ventura, brought to you by GEICO.

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I really went into life not knowing what I was going to do.

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I joined the Navy at age 18 and went through BUDS, basic underwater demolition seal training,

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and did all the death-defying stuff that the Navy Seal does today.

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Wrestling kind of reared its head in the fact that I had a great interest in theater at college.

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Theater and physical sports, it's ballet with violence.

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I got the good fortune of being able to name myself.

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When you go into the world of pro wrestling, and especially as a villain, it's not always good to use your real name.

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And I always loved the name Jesse, pulled out a map of California.

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And I started matching Jesse up, and when I read Jesse Ventura, the light went off.

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Being governor, I think the most remarkable thing that it did to me is it restored my faith

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that there's still a sliver of the American dream left.

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No other governor can match what I did.

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Keep watching Jesse Ventura as conspiracy theory continues. Brought to you by GEICO.

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Remember something, and mark this down in stone.

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Whenever government says they're going to protect you, get ready because you're going to lose your freedom for that protection.

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And I personally would rather have my freedoms than the protection.

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Freedom and liberty are on the line, as Jesse Ventura's team investigates the Big Brother conspiracy.

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Who's spying on you, and why?

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Jesse sends investigator Jun Sarpong on a late night rendezvous in a dicey neighborhood.

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She's meeting a man who says his patriotism led Big Brother straight to his front door.

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For safety's sake, the governor's advisor Michael Braverman provides backup.

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The subject arrives on foot.

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Jeff, nice to see you.

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Jeff Dahlstrom is a former U.S. Air Force pilot.

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He's part of a loose-knit group that keeps track of government terror drills.

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Exercises that simulate attacks on American cities.

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There had been a lot of talk back in October of 2007 about then the largest drill they were planning.

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Dahlstrom says he became a Big Brother target two years ago when he spoke the wrong words on the telephone.

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When I happened to call my bank, my Wells Fargo banker was operating out of Portland, Oregon.

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I recognized from the area code of her phone number, I just warned her not to go downtown.

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I said, look, you know, whatever you do next week, don't go downtown in Portland because there's a drill where they're going to simulate setting off a nuclear bomb.

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Now, I think when I said that word, it triggered this echelon computer system.

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Echelon is a satellite-based intelligence network.

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It's capable of intercepting and listening in on anyone's phone calls.

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I said, don't go downtown next week because they're having an exercise.

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And when I said the word bomb or nuclear bomb or whatever the trigger word was, it activated the computer that notified the secret service to come out and talk to me.

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I'm talking to the banker around 9.30 in the morning.

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Within six hours, I have two secret service agents at my house.

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They had a transcript of every word that was said on the telephone and they interviewed me for an hour and a half to two hours.

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And they wanted to know what was I talking about.

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I had just been reading about it on the internet.

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The only thing I want to kind of double check is how do you know that the bank teller didn't just call 911?

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That's obvious.

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That's obvious.

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After the interview was over, so I called Wells Fargo, I talked to that same person I spoke to on the phone and asked him if they had called anybody, like the secret service or the government, and asked them to.

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And they said, no, that's against our privacy laws.

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She categorically said she did not do it.

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It's absolutely a right wing.

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The next morning, investigator Alex Piper arrives in Washington, D.C.

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He's looking to back up Jeff Dahlstrom's story.

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His source is Tim Shorick, an investigative journalist who's dug deep into the spying game.

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And thanks for having us.

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You're welcome.

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Shorick keeps an eye on the ones who keep an eye on us.

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When people talk about Big Brother watching you, Big Brother listening, what are we talking about here?

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Are we talking about I'm on the phone and I use a certain keyword or I call a certain somebody who might be on a list somewhere and then all of a sudden I'm under surveillance?

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I mean, in layman's terms, how is this affecting the everyday person?

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The way it affects the everyday person is if you call organizations that are suspected to be terrorists, organizations, or if you talk to say somebody in Syria, it might be your best friend who's right there, or it might be a relative or something like that.

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There's a strong likelihood you'll be listened to.

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But what's more disturbing is who they are.

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It's the most secretive operations run by our government.

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Many of them are handled and run by private sector contractors, companies like SAIC or CACI.

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And they do everything that you think an intelligence officer does.

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Covert operations, you know, eavesdropping.

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Is it safe to say that our intelligence community is now a for-profit business?

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I think it's safe to say that.

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70% of our intelligence budget goes to the private sector.

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70%?

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70%. It's about $50 billion.

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Do you believe for one moment they're not going to abuse this?

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Do you believe for one instant that it isn't going to get to abuse?

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There's abuse in everything.

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They don't need to disclose what they're doing to Congress because they're not the ones doing it.

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And they don't have to operate under the same rules.

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The government has certain rules they have to abide by.

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Corporate America does not have to abide by those rules so they can be much more intrusive.

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And if this is all in the hands of the private sector, then we're never going to lower the terror threat.

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Because the second we do, the second we start sucking money out of their pockets.

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That's right. The higher the terror threat, the more money they're making.

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And they can sell this information to anyone, so anybody could be spying on you.

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It's like my best friend's father used to say to me all the time.

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He said, never let the camel get his nose under the tent.

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Because rest assured, you're going to eventually have the whole camel in the tent.

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And where does it stop? That's the question I ask you. Where does it stop?

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Coming up, Jesse Ventura demonstrates Big Brother's weapons for invading your privacy.

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I can listen to conversations inside your car remotely. You never have to touch it.

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Then I would have to say that Big Brother is well on his way.

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Then he infiltrates the group that's turning everyday Americans into Big Brother Spies.

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Big Brother is in the corner office where you work. Big Brother is your boss.

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And later, a top Big Brother spy cracks under Jesse's questioning.

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Well, and again, there's always the potential for abuse.

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Jesse Ventura has exposed a Big Brother conspiracy between big government and big business.

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Phone calls are being tapped. People are being watched.

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And the government is letting corporations do its spy work.

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It's clear that the ones we entrust with our freedoms are selling out you and me to the highest bidders.

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If that isn't scary, what is?

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While Jesse's investigators seek out new leads, the governor gets a look at the latest technology being used against us.

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You always hear out there, Big Brother's watching this and that.

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Now we've contacted the different agencies of the government and of course they're in denial.

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I'd just like to ask you a few questions on the capabilities that you know that are out there.

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Woody Norris creates and develops the spyware that winds up on the open market for anyone who can afford it.

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See that?

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Yeah.

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Looks like a rock.

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It is a rock.

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I can drive by your house, toss that in your front yard.

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Yeah.

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It picks up your security code from your alarm, your cell phone number, the code to your garage door opener.

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How?

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It's full of electronics.

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On the inside of it?

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Yes.

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And you would have access to where you could literally get in their house when they left and they would have no idea?

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Yes.

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Who uses things like this?

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Hopefully the good guys, alphabet agencies for sure, what they do with it, they do with it.

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So if I came to you and paid you enough money you could produce a rock for me that I could throw in someone's yard and be able to do all the things that you said.

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If I were convinced you were worthy of my effort.

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I want to tail a car and I don't dare risk because of guards or whatever the situation going up and planting a bug on the car.

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How about putting a bug on a fly and when it lands on the back of your car it sticks.

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I have a GPS now.

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It uplinks with milliwatts of power to a satellite.

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I can now track your car without ever having touched it physically.

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I can listen to conversations around your car and if I do it right inside your car remotely didn't ever have to touch it.

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What else you got?

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Alright, instead of hooking you up to a polygraph, I have a remote polygraph.

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I can aim it at your body.

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Your blood pumping causes your chest to move about three tenths of a millimeter.

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So I can get pulse and respiration and your blood pressure.

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That's what they read with a polygraph.

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I can monitor that with ultrasound.

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I did such a contract with one of those alphabet agencies.

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It took me about a year to perfect it but I built it and it's functional.

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So therefore you'd be unaware that they had the ability to know whether you're lying or not through a polygraph because you're not a dog.

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Exactly. What could be better.

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Or what could be worse.

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What else you got?

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Alright, I can put a sound in your head.

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You'll hear it. No one else will.

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No one else will.

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This is called hypersonic sound.

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Instead of coming out of here like a speaker, the sound is made in the air.

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And because it's made in the air, it's made right next to your ear.

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And so it's intimate to you.

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Want to see it?

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Turn on my CD player.

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Okay.

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Do that?

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Yep.

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How about this?

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I'm speaking inside of your head.

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What would this be used for?

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Someone's passing through a security line and you want to determine if they're suspect.

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So you can whisper to them, no one else will hear it.

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That could drive you crazy.

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Couldn't it?

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Yes.

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That to me is Big Brother at its finest.

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They're not following me around.

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I don't carry any of them electronic things they can tap into.

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I buy a car and it's got the North Star thing on it.

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The first thing I do is disable it.

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I don't want them to be able to sit up there and track where I'm driving, what I'm doing.

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Well, what else can they do?

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They can track you around the country.

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They can know where you're going, who you're seeing, what you're doing.

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I don't think there's anything to this.

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I think the fact that the government is trying to catch terrorists is a good thing.

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So in other words, the end justifies the means.

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Not always, but in this case.

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As long as they catch a terrorist, that makes it okay to spy upon and lose our civil liberties and our rights here in America.

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Am I civil-liberating?

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I am never going to be willing to give up my freedoms to be told they're going to make me safer.

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I would rather take the chance on not being safe and still live free.

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Governor, I found something that's a little bit disturbing.

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It's called InfraGuard and it's made up of 30,000 ordinary US citizens.

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And what happens is the FBI gives them classified information and they then have to report back anything suspicious.

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And the scary thing is, it could be anybody, even a member of your family, and you don't know they belong to this organization.

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They're asking citizens to become profilers and rat out their neighbors?

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Yeah, spies.

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Wow.

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This is an outrage.

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I am outraged at this.

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Is this Nazi Germany we're talking about?

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I mean, you know, we're going to have kids ratting their parents, neighbors ratting against their neighbors,

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and the government is setting all this up.

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I don't like this a bit.

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We need to learn more about this.

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Oh, come on.

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This InfraGuard sounds like just a glorified neighborhood watch.

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You're dead wrong on this, Mike.

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This is exactly what we're looking for.

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Big brother's ultimate weapon.

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They don't need spy satellites.

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They don't need RFID chips.

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You get citizens to start spying on citizens.

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Coming up, an insider exposes a big brother group that's even more dangerous than we'd imagined.

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At least 32,000 business people would have extraordinary scary powers, including using lethal force.

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Then, Jesse heads into the heartland to confront the hometown spies face to face.

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We self-watch.

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But isn't that the Fox Watch in the end house?

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I understand it.

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And later, the shocking revelations about the rewards they get for spying on you.

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If you're a member of InfraGuard, that puts you higher on the need to know information than the average citizen.

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Apparently so.

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What's happening is these enormous databases are being set up and created by these private sector corporations.

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Your supermarket, if you use a frequent shopper card, they're recording every stick of broccoli, every purchase you've made.

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They keep files on us?

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Absolutely. These databases are so enormous that they're housed in underground bunkers.

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That's how many of them are.

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No kidding.

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Unbelievable amounts of information.

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So imagine now your HMO denies you coverage.

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They cancel your policy because they don't like the way you're eating at the supermarket.

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And we all think we're just scanning those cards for the discount when in reality they're creating these enormous databases.

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You're telling me I should go in there and pay cash?

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Absolutely, I do.

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They want to have the ability to track you marketers, governments, and indeed criminals, obviously.

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That's their vision of our future.

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Everything you do, everything you own, every place you go, will be trackable.

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And I gotta think this is dastardly when you think criminals can get there.

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Absolutely.

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Conspiracy Theory Continues Next

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Infrugard

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Jesse Ventura's investigation into the Big Brother conspiracy has led to a group called InfraGuard,

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a partnership between the FBI and Main Street USA.

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And it's led the governor to Madison, Wisconsin to meet Matthew Rothschild.

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Rothschild is editor of the Progressive Magazine,

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a columnist, commentator, and investigative reporter.

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He's the one who infiltrated and exposed InfraGuard's secret circles.

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This is Big Brother in the business community working hand in glove with the FBI.

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Rothschild explains that InfraGuard was set up so the FBI and Homeland Security could share information

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with local businessmen and law enforcement groups.

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Everyone united to protect the nation from crime and terror.

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More than 350 of the top Fortune 500 companies are represented.

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It's agriculture, it's computers, it's utilities, it's food industry, it's transportation, it's banking, it's everything.

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Who's qualified to be InfraGuard?

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It's a very secretive club and to get into the club you gotta be recommended by a member of the club.

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That's how it grows, but it's grown astronomically.

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It used to be in November 2001 there were just 1700 members.

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Now there are 32,000 members in their chapters in every state.

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So 32,000 members of a group within the business community of America who works with the FBI doing what?

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Well, almost on a daily basis they're exchanging information.

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They can be talking about people they find suspicious, pass it on to the FBI,

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and they get that secret information coming back from the FBI too.

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And so that's a little scary.

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They're getting secret intelligence on almost a daily basis that the American public isn't getting.

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So they're in the know in a way that we aren't in the know.

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Some of the information is secret, doesn't get out to the public, some of it even doesn't get to our elected officials.

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As a governor you're gonna like this because back in November of 2001, then Governor Gray Davis of California...

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Sure I knew Gray Davis.

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Rothschild mentions the well publicized scare when the governor announced a terror threat to California bridges.

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Davis's information came not from the FBI, but his brother, a member of InfraGuard.

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Why would a member of InfraGuard get that information before an elected official in a state with 35 million people?

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Rothschild's whistleblower found even more reason to believe InfraGuard goes too far grooming informants.

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He was at a meeting where there's an FBI member and a Homeland Security member telling him and the other business people in the room

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that there's gonna be martial law in the United States, not if, but when.

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And when martial law comes down the pike, it's the responsibility of the business owners to protect their little corner of the infrastructure

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and that they have the right to use lethal force.

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These people are not deputized, they're under no official law enforcement, they're volunteers.

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Never been trained.

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And yet they're told by the FBI that if martial law were declared, they could deliver fatal blows to people.

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And it was confirmed by another InfraGuard member that I talked to.

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Then again, InfraGuard members don't need lethal powers to destroy lives.

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FBI Director Mueller said that they could basically tell the FBI about some disgruntled employee they might have

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and the FBI will go after that person.

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Do we really want 32,000 business people just to be ratten out a disgruntled employee?

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What you're saying to me Matt is this is truly Big Brother watching.

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This is one human being watching another and literally ratting them out to the FBI.

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Yeah, a Big Brother is in the corner office where you work. Big Brother is your boss.

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Jesse calls into his team.

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He's not finished yet.

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Yeah, look, okay, we got to deal with this InfraGuard. We need to get in and see them.

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It's being set up, so I'm going to have the ability now to go to InfraGuard and get a face-to-face meeting

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to where I can ask them some of these questions that I got on my mind.

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Excellent.

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Okay, I'm on my way.

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The researchers work the official channels to get a meeting with the FBI.

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They also begin reaching out to the many InfraGuard chapters in cities across the country.

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Jesse Ventura will face the citizen spies in their own hometown.

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Coming up, Jesse Ventura storms the heartland and finds the neighbors who are spying on you.

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If someone at the workplace has a different political viewpoint than you, they're not going to be put on a watch list.

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No, no, no.

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Then he finds out just how much power these watchdogs wield.

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The potential for government to go beyond what it should be doing is always there.

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Oklahoma City. Home to a chapter of InfraGuard, the group of citizens who spy on you and me in exchange for favors from the FBI.

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The debate over InfraGuard and Big Brother is all the more intense here.

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This is where 168 people were killed in the terror bombing of the federal building in April of 1995.

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Jesse Ventura and his investigator Alex Piper visit the memorial where the building once stood.

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Wow.

464
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It was a year after the Oklahoma City bombing that they started InfraGuard.

465
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:10,000
Yeah, that's interesting. I wonder if InfraGuard could have prevented it.

466
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:22,000
And then it's time to get down to business. After weeks of dodging denials and refusals, InfraGuard has offered up a member to face the governor.

467
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,000
We set up a meeting with Dan Bebe. He's a local businessman who serves on the InfraGuard board.

468
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
This is Dan Bebe, right?

469
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Governor Jesse Ventura. Good afternoon, Governor. My name is Dan Bebe. Hi, Dan. Nice to meet you.

470
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Nice to meet you. I'd like to show you something inside. Sure.

471
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Dan Bebe told us where to meet. Nothing seemed unusual when we went inside. But then he took us out back.

472
00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:03,000
He wanted to talk in the playground. I think Dan Bebe was trying to make a point. 19 of the Oklahoma City bombing was the first time he was killed.

473
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:12,000
So you feel today that Oklahoma City is safer than it was 15 years ago? I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

474
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:21,000
The best we can do is keep track of what's going on around in the community in terms of if we see the advance or activities that are going to be done.

475
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:31,000
It could indicate a terrorist attack. Then we can start reporting those things or looking at the things. Who's we? Well, the citizens. It starts at the average Joe citizen, John Q. Public, to see those things and report the same to the law enforcement officials.

476
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,000
I got to get to this. I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

477
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:44,000
The best we can do is keep track of what's going on around in the community in terms of if we see advance or activities that are going on that could indicate a terrorist attack.

478
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,000
I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

479
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,000
I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

480
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,000
I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

481
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000
I think we're better prepared for an advance. How would we prepare before it?

482
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:21,000
We founded in Cleveland in 1996. It has since spread to nationwide. We have 86 chapters in the country. It is designed to be a communication channel between the owners and operators of those critical infrastructures that we've identified, or the President Clinton identified, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

483
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,000
So that we have bankers, we have agriculture people, we have energy folks.

484
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Man by B is clearly nervous about where the interview is going, but the governor keeps the infigard questions coming at a rapid pace.

485
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Are there meetings of these groups? Yes, we have. And you plan what?

486
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Mostly we just have discussion meetings. We'll have an expert come in. It's really a mishmash of topics.

487
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Our Second Amendment gives us the right to bear arms and have a militia. Correct.

488
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Is this a government militia? No, sir. It is not. No, sir. But yet you're working for the government?

489
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:04,000
Well, we're working with the government. With the government? Yes, sir. We are not afforded any more privileges and rights than any other citizen would have.

490
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:19,000
So you gain information no faster than anyone else? There is occasion where if I'm an energy representative and I have need to know that there's something going on in terms of attacking the grids elsewhere, then there's an information acceleration there in that degree.

491
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:30,000
But I mean, there are misunderstandings in the public. I understand there was a gentleman here a couple of years ago, 18 months ago, who claimed that his infra-guard membership card gave him the license to kill, so to speak.

492
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Not if, but when martial law comes down the pike, they have the right to use lethal force.

493
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:43,000
And that's totally absurd. Absolutely absurd. I have no more rights to carry a gun than you do.

494
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:51,000
Jesse keeps the infra-guard member on the defensive. Do you carry an ID? I do carry an ID. So there's an ID for this?

495
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Yeah, a membership ID. It's primarily to get into meetings that have secured information, for example.

496
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:04,000
I start getting a little leery when I start hearing of relationships between civilians and government.

497
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Certainly, like any program, it has opportunity for abuse.

498
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,000
What do you do to ensure that won't happen?

499
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Well, there's checks and balances between who?

500
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Well, I mean, we self-watch within our membership, for example.

501
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000
But isn't that the Fox Watch and the M House?

502
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000
I understand. I do hear you say that.

503
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Infra-guard is tight ties with the FBI. My first thing wouldn't be if I saw something strange to pick up and call the FBI.

504
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Certainly, their first route of communication could be 911 to their local dispatch center. It's not required to go through the FBI.

505
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Obviously, it does make sense to, you know, the local police could respond perhaps more quickly. So that's certainly all right.

506
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Okay. And you try to keep Infra-guard totally looking at the infrastructure?

507
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000
That's correct.

508
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:59,000
You know, like if someone at the workplace has a different political viewpoint than you, they're not going to be put on a watch list.

509
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,000
No, no, no.

510
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:07,000
You're just looking at protection of our infrastructure, which would be, you know, what would we use, dams, things of that nature.

511
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Yes, correct.

512
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Agriculture, banking, energy, transportation.

513
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000
All of that stuff would fall under it.

514
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:18,000
From agriculture to telecom, what else is there? He's admitting they've got an eye on everything.

515
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,000
And certainly, we will try to hold back any big brother is watching.

516
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Oh, absolutely.

517
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000
Do you believe him?

518
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Well, I mean, you can't very well interview a guy and call him a liar. You know, can you?

519
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000
What's your gut telling you?

520
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000
My gut tells me that this is a group that needs to be watched and watched closely because it's ripe for abuse.

521
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Jesse Venturi is not satisfied. He's going higher up the Infra-guard ladder to an Infra-guard director who's more than a businessman with an important ID card.

522
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000
This man carries a badge.

523
00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Coming up, Jesse confronts the Infra-guard director and makes him crack.

524
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Well, and then there's, again, there's always the potential for abuse whenever you've got power, whenever you've got government.

525
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Jesse Venturi is in Oklahoma City to infiltrate a national group called Infra-guard, a big brother alliance between the FBI and corporate America.

526
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:38,000
His interrogation of a local Infra-guard officer has only raised more questions about this nest of hometown spies.

527
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:45,000
If people are granted powers and privileges, eventually they tend to abuse them.

528
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000
You're telling us that we have to keep an eye on them, but it seems like they're the ones keeping an eye on us.

529
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Well, but I think it's vigilance of us to keep an eye on them, too.

530
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Well, maybe this guy, David Williams, will get to tell us some more.

531
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,000
If anyone can tear open the lid on Infra-guard, it's David Williams.

532
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Mr. Williams, nice to meet you.

533
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
My pleasure.

534
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
My pleasure.

535
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Williams is a veteran in the field.

536
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,000
He has a 30-year background in law enforcement, from the military police to two terms as a Texas sheriff.

537
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,000
He's an Infra-guard director.

538
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000
He's the face of Oklahoma City Infra-guard.

539
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,000
David Williams is Infra-guard personified.

540
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,000
So, without a doubt, you're highly qualified in all parts of law enforcement and use of a weapon and everything you would do.

541
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Absolutely.

542
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Because your whole career has been right in that line.

543
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
A lot known all my life.

544
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
You're used to classified information because our police get it.

545
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
It's an everyday occurrence that happens all the time.

546
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:53,000
But as you've said, there are people involved in Infra-guard that are bankers, that are farmers, that are whatever,

547
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,000
that are not used to dealing with quote, classified things.

548
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000
They're now receiving information that I can't get, correct?

549
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Right.

550
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Why should they get information that an average citizen shouldn't get?

551
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,000
I haven't seen information that's so critical that it's...

552
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000
But it could be?

553
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000
Well, there's always that possibility.

554
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,000
But as far as the information that I've seen coming through, there is always that possibility.

555
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:30,000
So what you tell me is, if you're a member of Infra-guard, that puts you higher on the need to know information than the average citizen?

556
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000
Apparently so.

557
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Williams has already admitted that unqualified, untrained spies get special treatment in exchange for information.

558
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,000
He's about to go even further and contradict Dan Bybee.

559
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:52,000
As far as information back from the FBI, we receive emails that you have to log in to get to.

560
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Most of it that I'm seeing is classified.

561
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000
For example, the Mumbai attacks in India.

562
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,000
We receive information internationally.

563
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:16,000
If I'm an energy representative and I have need to know that there's something going on in terms of attacking the grids elsewhere, then there's an information acceleration there.

564
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Of an international thing?

565
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000
Correct.

566
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Because of terrorism.

567
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Sure.

568
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:31,000
And so we received information about that, that we got to look at before the media.

569
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Let's say, for example, we'll go hypothetical, that you've got someone out there who senses or learns that something out of the ordinary could quite happen here.

570
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000
What's the procedure? Does he then get on the phone directly to the FBI?

571
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Contact the advisor.

572
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Now what's the advisor?

573
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000
That'd be the FBI advisor.

574
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Oh, so you both, wait a minute. That's the exact opposite of what that Dan Bybee told me.

575
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
It's not required to go through the FBI.

576
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000
Obviously it does make sense to, you know, the local police could respond perhaps more quickly.

577
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
So that's certainly alright.

578
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Go directly to the FBI advisor.

579
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Yeah, and you wouldn't, on something like that, it'd be time sensitive.

580
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Isn't that ripe for abuse?

581
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:24,000
If an individual decided they didn't like somebody and wanted to rat them out and they call the FBI advisor and give them, for lack of term, a cock and bull story.

582
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000
And then the FBI would come down on this other person.

583
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,000
There's always the potential for abuse whenever you've got power, whenever you've got government.

584
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
How would you respond to someone that would say, this is Big Brother watching us?

585
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:46,000
You know, as a member, you know, people can always speculate, you know, and submit those kind of claims.

586
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:55,000
And again, the potential for government to go beyond what it should be doing is always there.

587
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Now it's the infraguard director who's getting nervous. He realizes he's let the cat out of the bag.

588
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:08,000
I've already interviewed another guy that says that infraguard is allowed to be lethal.

589
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Do you know anything about that?

590
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Never have heard that.

591
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,000
And you're on the board of directors.

592
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,000
I'm on the board of directors. I'm the deputy secretary chief. And I'm also a commissioned police reserve in this area too.

593
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
And I have not heard anything.

594
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,000
He looks for a distraction and finds one.

595
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Let me give you this brochure. It's an overview of infraguard.

596
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:39,000
The brochure stalls the questioning. And then the director pulls out something else and literally hides behind the U.S. Constitution.

597
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:48,000
I'm a big believer in this governor. I carry it with me. And I'm sworn to protect that as a peace officer and just as a citizen of this country.

598
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:55,000
And so I think that what we're doing with infraguard just helps to ensure that and maintain the balance of it.

599
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:02,000
And I'll say this to you, Sheriff, just as long as you don't step on that bill of rights while you're doing all this.

600
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,000
The infraguard director has only confirmed the warnings about this group.

601
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Its members are given crucial information that you and I are denied.

602
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,000
They get it in return for spying on us.

603
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Despite numerous attempts and negotiations, the FBI has refused all of the governor's request for an interview.

604
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Big Brother sounds like a paranoid fantasy, but I found out it's not.

605
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Hey, I knew they were watching me when I was governor. Back then, they looked like you or me, but now they're everywhere.

606
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Surveillance cameras on street corners. Every time you swipe your credit card as for infraguard.

607
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,000
It's a nice patriotic idea, keeping an eye out for terrorists.

608
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:59,000
But junior G-men ID cards? What a crock. It's all an invitation to snoop and snitch and get revenge.

609
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Watch out. Big Brother is everywhere.

610
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000
I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.